People were very affected by the war. But it didn't mean you stopped painting unless you were called into the Army; then you just couldn't paint. But otherwise one continued.
Stopped Army Paint
I have never been able to understand the artist whose image never changes.
I knew de Kooning and I went to his studio so I knew about de Kooning's work. But only a little handful knew about it, you know. Maybe there were ten people that knew about it.
Knew Ten Studio
In the late 30s the name Pollock was totally unknown and unheard of.
Unheard Totally Name
My studio was on 9th Street between University and Broadway.
Street Between Broadway
Painting... in which the inner and the outer man are inseparable, transcends technique, transcends subject and moves into the realm of the inevitable.
Painting Inner Man
The procedure was that an artist got a mural and then he would have anywhere from two to ten assistants depending on the size of the mural and how many assistants he needed, or she needed.
Got Artist Size
Well, let's say we acknowledged the School of French Painting - the Paris School of painting as the leading force and vitality of the time. I think that was understood and felt and experienced.
School I Think Vitality
As I say, I as an abstract artist was active politically.
Politically Abstract Say